He talks about how he got his start as a filmmaker, working for Roger Corman and American International Pictures. Anders keeps things moving by asking Hellman a lot of questions about making the film. He points out things that were improvised and how the famous, “motherf*****” line almost cost them an X-rating at the time.

They kick things off by defining the road movie and what it’s all about. Wurlitzer talks about the romanticism of Jack Kerouac’s On the Road and the evolution to the existentialism of Two-Lane Blacktop. He also talks about the influence of Luis Bunuel’s films and John Ford’s westerns on his own writing. This is a very philosophical track as he and Meyer talk about the film’s themes and analyze their meaning.